I have a neighbor who has housed foreign exchange college students for years. He currently has a couple of Chinese students and he says they come from very wealthy families. One of them has multiple firears that he has purchased here in the States, including a 50 cal with night vision optics. I am not a fan of non-citizens being able to buy firearms. Especially with all of the people that are flooding our southern border and getting away from law enforcement. It scares me to think of how many evil people have just walked right in.
How could a non-citizen buy a gun? The 4473 asks if you’re a citizen as a requirement to buy.
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Permanent residents can purchase firearms. Nearly every part of the constitution applies to non-citizens as well as citizens. The primary reason that illegal immigrants cannot purchase firearms is that they are already committing a crime. Form 4473 has a field for non-citizens to enter a green card number or similar.
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An undocumented immigrant in Chicago just had their gun charge from 2020 thrown out of court a couple months ago. Press release stated that immigrants have Second Amendment Rights as well. I don’t know what’s going on.
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I think a non citizen can legally obtain a firearm if they have a hunting license.
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That is just it. They can. It is legal. I am just not sure why that is a thing. He is here legally with a student visa of some kind. He has a US Identification.
I bought multiple firearms when I was a permanent resident (green card holder). The only difference was that the background check would take 24 hours to clear.
After I became a US citizen I went and bought a Ruger American just to experience going home with the rifle on the same day! 
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Yes I’ve worked for an FFL before and in essence, if they’re here legally, non-citizens can purchase a gun if they have a reason to have one (a hunting license is the most common reason used, I believe being a member of a rifle club or something might work too), if they pass a background check.
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Well, there’s always the “black market.” I would rather them buying legally and being registered than not.
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An Australian in Salt Lake City went into a mall downtown with a broken down AR in his backpack. A waitress saw the barrel protruding from the bag and called the police. The police found the AR and some loaded mags and confiscated the rifle.
The Australian later contacted the TV station that original ran the story and said he had a hunting license and bought the AR at a gun store. He said he was meeting a buddy to go shooting and was waiting for him at the mall. He also said the police wouldn’t return his rifle.
It doesn’t sound like he did anything illegal. He could have walked into the mall open carrying the carbine. If he had a hunting license he appears to have been in legal possession of the rifle. He said he was looking for a lawyer to sue to get his rifle back.
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no man, do you not read the form 4473 when you buy your guns? in extremely rare cases, people here on a foreign exchange visa, and a couple other work visas, and foreign law enforcement (meaning they are here legally and lawfully), can actually bypass restrictions but you have to apply for the privilege. meaning they have more scrutiny than you or myself before they’re allowed to purchase a gun. and they cant just walk into a store to do it. if you’d like an official reference to the procedure: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GOVPUB-J38-PURL-gpo21533/pdf/GOVPUB-J38-PURL-gpo21533.pdf
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The Law is a strange thing, supposedly written by smart intelligent people. In Florida, for many years the law stated that you. Could open carry, which was generally not allowed, when you were 1. hunting, 2. Camping, or 3. While fishing. There have been two citizens in south Florida that have exercised that portion of the law extensively and in my opinion just to be a pain in the caboose or maybe to prove a point. They will walk down the street with an AR slung over their shoulder carrying at fishing pole and bait bucket. It takes all of 5 minutes for the POPO to arrive in mass and the shit show starts while this guys buddy films or the fella is filming himself. Most often the local LE does not know what the statute says and make an ass of themselves with all good intentions. The non resident student or green card holder buying a gun is not high on my priority list. Out of the 10 million illegal entries into the country (which is overly conservative,) if 1 tenth of 1% were nefarious characters that is 100,000 bad guys in place within the USA. I doubt it will be those guys out there buying weapons on the open market.
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yeah i mean i think its important to reign in the black market, but i definitely dont think most politicians have our best interests in mind, nor do i think they are all that intelligent. i think that congress has been an elitist club full of incompetence and nepotism. I am in favor of removing all politicians who have been in their position for more than 4 terms. judges shouldnt have lifetime terms either. but im with you, i dont want bad folks killing innocent people either. i just think that too many people have been manipulated through disinformation that ends up being parroted by mainstream media. its irresponsible. i think journalists should have a licensing board and that spreading disinformation should be a cause for losing a journalistic license.
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100,000 or more nefarious military age males. Think about that for a minute. There are anywhere between 10,000 and 15,000 troops in a standard US Army Division. Could there be that many combatants in 5 man to 50 man cells waiting in the wings for the balloon to go up? How about half that number….how about even a quarter of that number. Talk about a shit show. Are you ready for something like that?
respectfully, 100,000 criminals spread across all cities in the US? thats like 3 people per city. i dont think law enforcement will have trouble handling that. but i see where you’re coming from and respectfully disagree.
its not like they’re an organized militia, they just have bad intentions. i think there are far more US citizens with ill intentions. honestly, i think we should treat everyone who harms innocent people the same, US citizen or not. I just dont buy into this whole immigrant phobia, i just think they’re the scapegoat for distraction purposes. i think everyone wants a strong boarder, but i dont think we need to go as far as what DHS has done. the fact of the matter is, if someone wants a gun in the US, theyll buy one or make one. its kind of like the war on drugs, its an un-winnable to try to remove all drugs from the US, so why dont we address the root problem, which is addiction. same thing here, i think its more of a mental health problem. in my opinion we should love our neighbor and try to help them when we can, but i can see how some would disagree with me.