If it wasn’t for our government this state is awesome. Name it and we have it from tuna to grouse to elk. Well could use some moose. Long summer days and good growing weather. Usually not too hot and not too cold. But enough to feel the seasons. Now if we could just at least not have a party supermajority in both houses so nothing could get done it would be ok.
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Yep Oregon, Washington, California are ruined. It’s a shame. Started with mountain lions and trapping. Then went to guns and types of ammo. They used to be great states. Wouldn’t live any any of them now.
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Hard part for me is ocean is close by for me. So hard for me to move away from. And there is the little problem of grand kids which is growing with another on her way! With 3 boys of mine which one has 3 boys of grandkids to have a granddaughter is going to consume my wife! And I cannot wait to take her hunting and fishing along with her cousins.
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The thing with these states is a lot of the ppl who have turned them into what they are today are not even from WA, CA, OR. Somehow they built this reputation of being a bastion of leftism and that drew out all the crazies from everywhere else and now they are what they are. Grew up in the Santa Cruz mountains and boy was that an amazing childhood. People were more normal back then and it wasn’t even that long ago.
and the rhetorical question is why? Maybe even not rhetorical. I am so caught up in my own biases
that I cannot see the real truth? Why am I always wrong in my belief system? I used to be pretty libertarian - kind of a live and let live person. Less so now because give an inch and they take a mile. Plus the let live part is becoming so harmful to children. Do I care if you OD? Sad but in the grand scheme of things if I am honest… no. Do I have empathy for the children you affect - yes. Same for trans or pot or whatever it is. You just can’t enjoy it yourself, it has to be made to affect children in some way. Your beliefs rely on you having full freedom for what your wants are but no way I should have the freedoms I want such as hunting, fishing, guns, diesel trucks or whatever. Sorry for the
rabbit hole.
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I too am a native to the “left coast”. I was born in Sacramento and have lived almost all of my 51 years in northern California. I think it was @brendangleach who said it was not this way when he was growing up. I have the same feeling. The state is not the same as when I was young.
So for your point about the impact on children, now hear me out, I am not sure it is an accident regarding the various cultural issues you mention, pot, trans, etc. As things were changing in California, I kept asking myself why. Why would anyone pass this this or that law? What is the motivating idea or belief? How could one not see the damaging impact even when we now have the benefit of hindsight? So I started digging into that question and looking at the underlying philosophy of much of what I will call the “woke left”.
Therein, I found what I think explains much of it. We all have a set of ideas and beliefs that animates us and shapes how we think. For me it is Christianity, a belief in individual liberty and the God given rights of man. In a system of governance, I think those beliefs have been better implemented in the US Constitution than any other system of governance yet developed. The “woke left” on the other hand is animated largely by postmodernism or what some call cultural Marxism. Having done some study into what that means, I now believe what we are seeing are not the unintended consequences of well-meaning policies, but rather we are seeing exactly the intended result. I think this is particularly true with children who have no memory of what it was like before. If the “woke left” can win the hearts and minds of the children they will solidify their control of the states mentioned and spread their agenda to other parts of the nation as well. And control is what they want.
As President Regan said, “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.” Sorry to continue down the rabbit hole.
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I agree. It is well organized and intentional. But the people in it and help create it are not making a better place for those that want it. Only making more power for some small group in the hope of taking from someone to give to themselves? And the small group of elites encourage it because of the power they get but it never works out for the have nots - ever. They think they take from the elites, whether they think it is power or money but that is not a sacrifice for the elite of course since they make the rules for us not for them.
If you take all from a rich man and give to a poor man, the rich man will become rich again and the poor man will be poor again. Portland has lost population for the first time in many decades. Certainly don’t have to look hard to see this. The locals of Lahaina are and will suffer. Anyone want to bet big corps will own all of that at a discount rate and make more hotels? How did their government in a very liberal state work out for them?
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I agree. It never works out. The elites talk a good game about how things would be better if only they had the power, but it never, ever is better. It’s funny you mention Lahaina. My oldest son said virtually the same thing the other day. I think you both are right.
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Well even the great state of Arizona has been ruined by chomofornication. Unfortunately its like a cancer its spreading fast and its terminal.
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