Serious question. Does Biden want America to fail?

I have always thought that dems are just bleeding hearts without much logical sense. They do what “feels” right by giving welfare out like candy without realizing it’s actually destroying those people they “help.” They talk about race so much that they don’t realize they are actually creating the racial divide.

I still believe that most democrat voters are good people who just vote based on feeling rather than logic.

But over the last couple years, I can no longer believe that’s the case with democrat leaders.

I really believe that Biden is actively working to destroy America. Anything that weakens the people means it makes the leaders more powerful.

We have so much debt that it would cost every taxpayer $258k to pay it off.

He shipped $6 billion to IRAN just 3 weeks ago and now they’ve been emboldened to support Hamas in attacking Israel.

He asked today for yet another $100 billion to ship to Ukraine, which coincidentally is the country he and his family have been given millions of dollars from.

By the end of this administration, 15 million people will have invaded the southern border. Future welfare recipients and voters for his power.

So honest question. Is there any chance he still has a good heart and is just foolish? Or am I right that he actually does want America to fail?

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Sadly, I too have come to believe that the Democrat leaders actually want America, the one we know and grew up with, to fail. I take no pleasure in saying that. Frankly, it worries me.

I have come to believe that the Democrat party has been ideologically captured and is no longer simply the “bleeding heart” liberal party. Being a native Californian, I have had a front row seat to the development of the modern Democrat party as my state has been on the vanguard.

I think both by their words and by the actions of most Democrats holding national office, the party does not value individual liberty and does not believe in limited government. They have a collectivist mindset focused on group identity. They believe they know better how society ought to be structured and the power of the government must be brought to bear to remake the country.

They believe it is worth it, or perhaps even necessary, for America to fail in order to bring about their vision of a better place. One that is more just and equitable, to use their language. This thinking among progressives goes back at least to the 1960s with Cloward and Piven, but has now become the primary position of the Democrat party.

From the vantage point in my home state, I watched this ideology capture the Democrat party and it was happening in other states like New York, Washington, Oregon, and Minnesota, to name a few. I agree it is not all Democrat voters, however the party uses their feelings to advance its power and agenda.

It seems to me, from all of the points you mentioned and others, that this new ideology now controls the Democrat party. The national debt alone is an existential threat. I am afraid you are right that Biden (and the Democrats) actually want America to fail.

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I am not sure that he does. I think he is being convinced behind the scenes and really does not know the implications or results of his decisions. The people behind him want authoritarian power to remake us as they see fit to right all of the wrongs from the past. The solution for them is not equality but equity in the form of punishment of ancestors that were assumed to be guilty. And equity will not be equality. It it meant to be punishment and take all they can without any guilt as they feel fully justified. Look how they are excusing the actions of Hamas.

Good points Mark. Will you stay in California?

Interesting. So am I correct in reading your message to say you think Biden specifically may just be too foolish to recognize the implications of what he is doing, but someone else is pulling the strings who actually does know what they’re doing?

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Or just bows to the pressure doing as he is told.

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No, I will not stay in California. It truly makes me sad to see what my state has become as I remember when California was a great place. True, we always had a liberal wing, the beatniks, the hippies, etc., but I also remember that Ronald Reagan was in his first of two terms as governor when I was born. Not counting Jerry Brown’s first term, we had 16 years of Republican governors after Reagan. Now it is a one party state with the new Democrat party holding supermajorities in both chambers of the legislature. So no, I am now planning my exit strategy.

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The only two answers I have come up with are incredible incompetence or malicious intention. It’s a bummer bc we have inherited this great American experiment that seems to be regressing to the mean. I wish we as Americans, and especially our leaders, would realize and value what we have, and then act accordingly.

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The leftist/globalists are doing it on purpose. Twenty years ago I used to laugh at the new world order people but must now admit they were right.

We need a few John Wayne’s to step up but mostly we need a whole lot of Charles Ingalls out there.

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Yea he does because those in power think America must be brought down for the good of the world. Elites behind the scenes are controlling the world and our government. Some call it the deep state. It goes back to the Rockefeller’s. It comes down to they want total control of all people money land resources and many less of us. Really nothing new this has been happening for thousands of years. I wish it weren’t true but when you look at what they are doing in all ways it’s clear that these are in fact the goals. I will share a link that explains things well. https://youtu.be/EpH7UQ9CU3o?si=CMFZ0iU5JJa0P8hc

I’ll say this. I don’t think anyone in public office actually wants America to fail and I think the talking points from the media that suggest this tend to be a hyperbolic.

Now are there people working to change certain dynamics so that it isn’t the America from “yesterday” well that’s an emphatic yes - but that’s because the America from yesterday did not ALWAYS actually serve everyone. This isn’t a hyperbolic statement as there are constitutional amendments since 1787 to prove this reality. We don’t have to get into actual state and federal laws beyond that to see this is factually a true statement. Do we all have to like or agree with these changes? No… that’s what voting is for as of today. Also we can all do more to be civically minded and get involved with politics through your local and federal politicians… at the expense of spam email and calls for donations every other year or so.

Now as for immigrants, I see a lot of people talking about it from a presidential standpoint but this is a Congressional and state issue in reality. Would I like there to be established limits on visa issuance and immigration? Maybe… but a lot of this is rhetoric that was used from the grandparents of some of my friends that came through Ellis Island that didn’t come over here “the right way.” There’s also the reality that we overlook immigration as a country when people come from certain places and not from others as a problem… and there’s the effect of our involvement in the affairs of other countries that create some of our problems around the world. I’ve worked on 5 continents at this point so I definitely have a global worldview in that I find there are great people everywhere… and crappy ones everywhere too. Being prior military, I find that I can live just about anywhere in weird conditions and be fine but I understand not everyone is used to having problems that aren’t “1st World” so I’ll leave it at that.

Look I’m not a DNC or GOP fan by any metric. I believe both parties have just become a corporate tool to further greed and develop classism between corporate and citizens… and the courts allowed it to happen on a grander scale with the Citizens United ruling… so all that to say that it’s less about the people in the office and more about the love of money overlooking the common good of people.

In any case we are all greatly blessed beyond what we say. I get that some might have some issue with SOME change but sometimes it helps your mental health to just turn off the news, the grievance podcasts, the woe is me YouTube videos, the whining, and all of that to just be thankful that we all woke up mostly healthy, safe, and know that most of our problems are small in the grand scheme of things.

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If you change American ideals and beliefs then are we still America? We are in a small club of “free” nations. If you take away our principles stated in the bill of rights - we are not uniquely American. We become something else. And in that sense America is under attack from within and we will cease to exist. 400 million people will live here still in some reduced levels of freedoms and qualities of life. Do we become a China or India in the end?

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I guess the question is which ideals and beliefs? The constitution was written as a “living document” in order to be changed and amended as the majority of people willed it to be.

So the answer is yes it’ll still be America as it would still be the will of the majority that prevailed. Now would that mean it was the place for you still? Only you could answer that but I’ve found that the number of “free” places in the world is far more than propaganda would suggest… and I’d argue that America was never really quite as free as they’d have us all believe. There are still rules and laws in reality… there alway will be in any society.

Kinda hard to say everyone was free when everyone couldn’t vote or have a say at the inception of the country. Enslaved people got it later… women even later. Then laws had to be enacted to further enforce the constitutional amendments. Even now there are people actively fighting against those entitlements and that’s why I’m not affiliated with any party.

While yes the Republicans aren’t as big of a hindrance to the 2 Amendment they certainly are passing local laws in some places to redraw district lines and take away voting power of citizens strategically… then there are the ones that are actively emboldening departments in some places to overpolicing some areas with unconstitutional search and seizures. Yes there are SOME democrats actively fighting 2nd Amendment… without question.

I just think all this partisanship under the guise of “protecting the constitution” is short sighted. There are absolutely members of both parties fighting against the constitution and I would find it more resourceful for people to stop fighting against other citizens for party affiliation and collectively turn the dialect towards politicians so that we aren’t divided on protecting said freedoms. Like I just don’t think it’s useful to pick and choose which amendments and freedoms we fight to protect… and I don’t think it’s in our best interests to alienate our fellow American brothers and sisters solely on ideological differences without conversation. I think most of us are closer to one another but our pride and grievances just keeps everyone angry and separated.

If you do not believe in the Bill of Rights, what conversation should I have with you? Does this make me idealogical? If you offer something that increases freedoms that can make it as a new amendment through the prescribed process then ok. If you offer an amendment ala Newsom that takes away freedom then not interested in moving your way.

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Well I served to support the entire constitution… not just parts of it. I leave it at that.

Thank you for your service. Not sure what I was saying was against the Constitution. Most of the Constitution sets the structure of the federal government and establishes the limits of behavior between three branches. There are some attacks on freedoms from the left on the structure of the government such as Wash DC statehood, voting age, electoral college or whatever. These are really hard to change through judicial activism or agency regulation. Not so for BofR. I guess I do not understand where we differ?
And when I say you I mean royal you not you directly.

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I apologize if there were misunderstandings on my part.

My greater issue with the partisan statements is this - I often feel that grievances are misplaced. Like reading through history I believe that we have to be extremely careful in our reactions towards the rhetoric of politicians. Their goal is to satisfy their greatest benefactors and retain power - regardless of power.

So one of the things I’ve always held onto was reading through the Nuremberg Papers years ago and the subject came up of how a country as small as Germany swiftly captured Europe but more distinctly captured the grievances of the German citizens and weaponized it against the world. It wasn’t so much the socialism though in reality it played a part in turning around the daily outcomes of the people (in a positive way for many) as the world was reeling from the effects of the Great Depression globally (though we usually only teach the effects of the economic issues nationally in our schools). The other thing was how immigration was discussed from the turmoil in the Middle East and Africa caused by structural power shifts as European colonial continued to fail. This impacted immigration in many regions where they held power in Northern Africa, the Eastern Mediterranean areas, the Arabian Peninsula, etc. that increased immigration… I know this seems all too familiar today because the same effects have been happening over the last 30 years or so again through wars and conflicts throughout the Middle East, SW Asia, and the African continent. The thing that always surprised me to read about the Germans though was that they modeled their propaganda campaign after the Jim Crow laws and rhetoric that occurred during the American Recomstruction period post Civil War… from the rhetoric about Jewish people (and other immigrants from Eastern Europe/Slavic regions) taking jobs to the grotesque and hateful imagery used (and let’s call it what it was outright racism) to the restrictive policies implemented that not enough pushed against.

I guess my concern is that when we “otherize” or dehumanize people for whatever reason we open up those cracks for politicians and those in power to have us hating each other without addressing the issue of so many of them abdicating their duties to legislate. I mean we are seemingly having government shutdowns every year while they’re still collecting their checks. I remember the first major one back around 2010 where I went a month and a half without a check while actively serving in the military. I was financially fine because I had some rank and was financially responsible but I had several troops essentially living check to check when they’re making less than $2,500 a month while living in California.

So again this is why I have zero confidence in either party. I just think everyone needs to wake the F up and see that both parties are screwing everyone in one way or another. Honestly I wish the Libertarian party was more viable or sometimes I wouldn’t mind a more fair way of governance like Parliamentary rules at times where everyone is represented and people could vote for people and ideals rather than parties like it’s a sports franchise.

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Again when we are talking about immigration, many have stated their support for Vivek. His parents are immigrants. His father still is not a citizen based on an interview that he did. He gained citizenship through birthright. His mother was naturalized after living in the country for years being either undocumented or overstaying her visa.

Again I have many friends that are 1st to 3rd generation citizens. One of my friends grandfathers doesn’t talk with my buddy any longer based on some of his hardline viewpoints on immigration which his grandfather is ashamed of given that those are many of the reasons he came from Italy to America to escape the craziness of 1930-40’s Europe. I can legit count my lineage back 6 or 7 generations at a minimum… and perhaps further if I kept looking. So I guess my thing with immigration is that most of us came from somewhere else technically. I don’t like the idea of people taking advantage of the system but I also don’t like the idea of solving the rest of the world’s problems either. On one hand I think we have enough money to feed, clothe, and shelter our own homeless if we can send billions to Israel, Ukraine, EU, Asia, etc. yearly.

You covered significant ground and make some fair points, particularly about the crony capitalism that has manifested in our country, however, there are certain fundamental philosophical positions underpinning the Constitution that if altered would end the United States. You may think that sounds hyperbolic, but I do not believe it is. The United States was founded on the ideas of individual liberty, natural rights of man, respect for private property, and free enterprise. It goes all the way back to the Declaration of Independence and followed through in the Constitution. If you alter these ideas, then the country falls. Now of course the people will still be here and there would be some sort of government after. That new government may have been elected by the people and may still call itself the United States, but it would not be the same.

I have come to believe that the modern Democrat party does not believe in individual liberty. Instead they have a collectivist mindset. This is evident by the philosophical underpinnings of the party, by the words of Democrats elected to office, and by the votes they cast.

The leaders of the modern Democrat party have adopted a platform steeped in neo-Marxist ideas. The Democrat’s embrace of various Critical Theories provides solid evidence. Their platform is covered in the fingerprints of Marcuse, Foucault, Derrida, Bell, Crenshaw, Freire, and the more current DiAngelo and Kendi. Whether Critical Race Theory, Critical Gender Theory, Queer Theory, Postcolonialism, they are all the practical application of the Critical Theory of the postmodernist. They do not believe in truth. They only believe in power wielded by the government. That is the underpinning of the modern Democrat party.

The words of the leaders of the modern Democrat party provide further evidence. They speak in terms of problematic discourses, systemic racism, and equity. They play games with language deconstructing Western civilization. Words become violence and actual violence becomes legitimate protest. There is no definition of man or woman. Equality becomes oppression and equity is fair, but equity means taking from one to give to another. In other words, Marxist redistribution with less focus on class, now favoring group identity. The votes of the modern Democrat party are fully in agreement with their words. The Build Back Better Bill was chock full of expanded benefits financed by debt.

In the end, the philosophy of the modern Democrat party is incompatible with the pillars of the Constitution. They do not believe in limited government, separation of powers, and individual rights. The Constitution as drafted by the Founders cannot stand in the utopia they envision because it is an impediment, especially the Second Amendment. Therefore, I believe they do want America, or at least the country I know, defined by the Constitution, to fall. What’s more, they are taking steps that will hasten the fall. The long list is extensive, but to name a few: burdening the nation with debt, stoking racial and class animosity, creating dependency on the government through ever expanding entitlements, unrestrained illegal immigration, expanding the vote to minors and non-citizens, refusing to enforce the law or prosecute criminal offenders, policies that exacerbate homelessness (while spending billions), confiscatory wealth taxes, and ballooning the federal bureaucracy. That is why some, myself included, feel it is important to defend the Constitution.

I agree that the Republican party is not the best defender of the ideals of America, however, they are not directly opposed to those ideals as is the modern Democrat party in my estimation.

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I think the origin point is that it depends on the version of the constitution you’re believing to be the ideal version. From the original onset only land owning white males were afforded full citizenship as we would call it today. Meaning that literally no one else was afforded all the freedoms. If you were a poor sharecropper you could not have all of the rights. If you only had daughters then you’d better hope you could marry her off to a man of character with some respect for you or risk everything you worked for in your life. If you were black well the original constitution didn’t support your right to own guns, vote, take part in the American experiment, etc.

Now do I think every part of “Western culture” is terrible? Of course not but to not acknowledge many of the morally bankrupt facets of the effects of conquest, murder, enslavement, theft, and deification of people “in the name of God” is completely counter to Christian teachings and ideals. Most of these people do it all in order to seek their own glory and satisfy their own pride. A part of me gets it but I also can’t look at the actions of some throughout history and not say that people knowing committed evil acts.

It’s like when Thomas Jefferson made the statement about being fearful of the retribution of God on America for how they incorporated enslavement of Africans because God is just and his mercy will not rest forever… he recognized the practice as evil and allowed it to continue anyway.

So with that said I just have a different viewpoint on how we discuss politicians as “leaders” when the reality is that they are supposed to be representatives and in service to us the people. As some point that flipped but we shouldn’t be talking about the beliefs of the individuals so much as we should be talking about which candidate will defer to the will of the people - whatever that is.

That’s why I don’t think America is ending but I do think power is and has shifted East… but that’s our fault on embracing cultural ignorance to the global stage beyond just waging wars.