Debating on getting another suppressor. I’m wanting a titanium one this go round. I haven’t had a direct thread model. I was considering going with one but then I started reading about people cans “backing off” their threads, causing accuracy issues and sometimes damage to the can and gun. I would think the gun heating up due to shooting would tighten it but I guess I’m wrong. I have saw where several hunters have recommended Direct Thread. But, if the can backs off when it’s a direct thread then why would you not go QD every time to prevent this from happening?
Just a personal preference thing.
Keep in mind, not all QD cans lock. Thus they can back off too.
Some people just dont want a brake or flash hider on a rifle, sometimes just for looks, sometimes because it’s an additional thing you’ve got to get installed correctly.
DT is definitely the most simple, simplistic way to go. And yes, you do need to make sure it doesn’t loosen but it’s not like that needs to be done that frequently. Typically if I clean the gun the can comes off, and then when I put it back on I’ll shoot two or three rounds and then make certain it’s tight. Typically then it will stay tight for the rest of that range session or even several more.
I have examples of both QD and direct thread. I can’t say that I prefer one over the other
Yeah I knew DT would be the simple route. I’ve messed with both but I own a QD model. I have been around DT models and the owners didn’t say anything about them working their way off. I have been on some forums where multiple people reported it happening though so I thought I would see people opinions and experiences here.
I’ve definitely had it happen, but would not say it’s not frequently by any means.
A couple of times I’ve picked it up by doing the testing that I mentioned above after either initial installation or after a cleaning with a reinstallation. I think maybe once I noticed it when the rifle suddenly shot a much larger group than usual. If that ever happens, then the very first thing I check is whether or not the can is tight.
Typically, the more you shoot the gun the more crud and stuff develops on the threads and it tends to lock the can on. In fact if you shoot a real lot, you may need to use a vise and a wrench to get the thing off because it will be so baked on.
I know others will use locking compound of some form. I believe Jim recently did a post where he mentioned using Loctite on his.
DT all day and twice on Sunday!
If you plan to move them around on guns you either have to move the QD mount or buy one for every gun. Also keep in mind that many QD systems are not the same between makes and models. Additionally a DT will suppress better than a QD because the mount takes up space in the first expansion chamber.
I’ve also ran into an issue where the threads were not square on the QD mount. It caused horrible accuracy issues and a baffle strike.
Either way is OK. I like the QD when hunting so I don’t have the suppressor on when walking in, in the dark. Just check for tightness at the range. I use a BBQ mitt to not burn my hand.
It definitely happens with DT, but in my experience with a banish 30 on a Tikka, it’s more so when you are at the range, taking a lot of shots. Just keep a cover on it, so you can reach up every 5-10 shots and check it. I don’t think there’s anything to worry about if you’re hunting and just taking a shot or two.
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I wouldn’t ever consider a direct-thread suppressor, I’m not a fan of having to worry about whether or not its coming loose. You can have issues with threads on the suppressor itself just as easily as you would on the QD mount, just do due diligence beforehand and check alignment with everything. A (good) QD mount ensures the suppressor goes back into exactly the same spot and orientation every single time you put it on.
I use Dead Air Sandman and Primal, and I put QD mounts on all of my threaded barrels. Mainly because it’s easy to swap from gun to gun without changing the parts on the can every time. I use the primal on everything from 10mm carbine, 22 creed, 7 prc, 308, & 450 bushmaster.
I’m not the most experienced with suppressors, but I’ve spent enough time using a muzzle break that when I got my suppressor there was no way I was using a DT for hunting.
The number of times that my gun started shooting screwy only to realize my break had come loose was infuriating. Despite the manufacturer saying it wouldn’t. I ended up reinstalling my break with loctite before I took it hunting. There is no way I would bring a system that unreliable hunting.
I think we would all find it ridiculous if our scope rings just jiggled loose after a few shots. I don’t think there is any reason to not feel the same way about a muzzle device.
You could DT and then use loctite or rocksett, but you are risking having your suppressor getting carbon-locked to your barrel if you aren’t somewhat regularly going through the hassle of taking it off and “regluing” it back on, so to speak.
A QD is nice if you can use the same for all of your suppressors. The only problem I have with the QD is that my gun will not shoot accurately with a QD. I do not know why, but I have tried shooting with a QD and with DR and the DR is definitely more accurate on my rifles. I can only tell you what I have experienced with QD’s. But you do have to check your suppressor periodically if you are shooting several a number of times.
I had a baffle strike with a dead air sandman S. I believe it was my fault. I was told that the QD locking mechanism had to be tightened minimally and so I did that and unfortunately it loosened after maybe 5-6 shots and then I had the baffle strike. I sent it in to Dead Air and they took care of it. They either sent me a new one or replaced the qd mount, end cap, and baffles, and re-cerakoted it. I’m not sure how that works with the unconstitutional atf so I’m gonna say they just fixed it. It did take a number of weeks to get it back. Since then I make sure I tighten it on there good, and haven’t had any problems but I still check, but not as frequently as I do with direct thread suppressors. As far as qd vs direct thread, I use both. I don’t like having to drop 90 bones on a muzzle device each time. I haven’t had problems with the actual muzzle devices. Dead Air has a timing process where you use shims and Rocksett which can be a bit of work but once on there, they don’t seem to come off easily.